I get what you mean about the S6 Willow thing, but then again, we're never deep inside Willow's POV. What's going on there seems a lot more traditional: we are looking at someone else's pain and empathizing, but at the same time standing a little back and seeing that she's taking it too far. What I'd like to see is something where we're so far entrenched in the person's POV that it seems right at first . . . and then we are forced to really see the others' perspectives and feel that they are right. I feel like Battlestar Galactica did that, actually, because I was totally on board with, "KILL THE ROBOTS KILL THEM KILL THEM THEY ARE EVIL!", but the show stubbornly and inexorably forced me to see the robots' pov, and I at last began to see that ROBOTS ARE PEOPLE, too!
But anyway, yeah. I think BtVS had the flaw of wanting us to be on Buffy's side while at the same time not wanting to espouse that idea of exceptional rules. Really, show, I could have still loved Buffy if you had been a little braver about exposing her flaws, and then I could have loved her friends more, too.
That is a really good point: "I could have loved her friends more, too." From what we got to see of Firefly, Joss (aided mightily by Tim Minear) managed to finesse the idea of the ensemble and really make it an ensemble.
I want to say that there was another show that did the POV thing well, but I can't even remotely think of what it could be. Part of my brain is yelling Farscape at me, but I think that's wrong. It has been a really, really long time since I've seen Farscape.
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Date: 2010-10-09 01:51 am (UTC)From:I get what you mean about the S6 Willow thing, but then again, we're never deep inside Willow's POV. What's going on there seems a lot more traditional: we are looking at someone else's pain and empathizing, but at the same time standing a little back and seeing that she's taking it too far. What I'd like to see is something where we're so far entrenched in the person's POV that it seems right at first . . . and then we are forced to really see the others' perspectives and feel that they are right. I feel like Battlestar Galactica did that, actually, because I was totally on board with, "KILL THE ROBOTS KILL THEM KILL THEM THEY ARE EVIL!", but the show stubbornly and inexorably forced me to see the robots' pov, and I at last began to see that ROBOTS ARE PEOPLE, too!
But anyway, yeah. I think BtVS had the flaw of wanting us to be on Buffy's side while at the same time not wanting to espouse that idea of exceptional rules. Really, show, I could have still loved Buffy if you had been a little braver about exposing her flaws, and then I could have loved her friends more, too.
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Date: 2010-10-15 06:26 am (UTC)From:I want to say that there was another show that did the POV thing well, but I can't even remotely think of what it could be. Part of my brain is yelling Farscape at me, but I think that's wrong. It has been a really, really long time since I've seen Farscape.